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January 07, 2006

The Return of the 30 Second Socratic Dialogue!

One of the things about putting together the Hate Mail book is that I'm going through old versions of the Web site and finding lots of forgotten stuff there. For example, this cartoon, which was part of a philosophy book proposal I put together back in the days when I didn't have any books published, so no one would buy a book from me. The philosophy book proposal, incidentally, is not entirely ridiculous for me, being that I have a philosophy degree. Ironically, however, the illustrator of this piece, Richard Polt, is actually a professor of philosophy and has written a book on Heidegger.

But enough about that. Here, once again for your viewing pleasure, is the 30-Second Socratic Dialogue!


Posted by john at January 7, 2006 06:48 AM

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Resa | January 7, 2006 10:02 AM

Oh wow. I want this book for my kids (because we're crazy homeschooling freaks). Sad wailing that it's only one panel from a proposal.

Andrew Cory | January 7, 2006 12:57 PM

Yup! That’s why they had him poisoned shot him, alright! Perhaps extreme assholeness ought not be a capital crime. But as long as you live in a pure democracy, don’t be a dick...

Matt Arnold | January 7, 2006 01:46 PM

Somebody needs to show this cartoon to Judge Roy Moore of Alabama.

has | January 7, 2006 01:58 PM

"Oi!!! Did you spill my Pint??!?!!!!"

No really, I'd have loved to have this book back in art school. They tried to teach us Nietzsche; it put me to sleep. This is why I'm an ignorant bum today.

Excuse me now, I feel the Philosopher's Song coming on...

BrerWolf | January 7, 2006 05:04 PM

Not to be a total pain about this, but my screen does not display the cartoon properly, the right hand column overwrites it. Am I missing something or are you? No big deal, I just copied and pasted into Word to read it, but the feedback might be useful to either you or me.

John Scalzi | January 7, 2006 07:02 PM

If you're looking at the site at a resolution less than 1024x768, you're probably getting clipping of the image.

Anonymous | January 9, 2006 02:57 AM

So what's your take on this argument, now?

What about the logical fork of, "It's pious because the gods love it?"

And we've neglegted the whole matter of, "It's pious because the priests tell us that it's pious."

John Scalzi | January 9, 2006 07:17 AM

Well, then it would be the 45-second Socratic dialogue, wouldn't it?

Matt McIrvin | January 10, 2006 09:54 PM

That's the funny thing; modern commentary on the Euthyphro often deals mostly with that dilemma, but Euthyphro in the actual dialogue doesn't seem to want to explore the other fork that much, if I recall correctly. To me it's the really terrifying and crazy possibility (what if God changes his mind about what he loves? How do you know he's not lying about what he loves--since if he loves lying, it would even be OK for him to lie about it? What do you do when he asks you to pull an Abraham?) and therefore inherently more interesting.

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